FS#6292 - 0.8 ISO does not boot on some hardware
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Opened by Maik Opitz (Schrauber) - Saturday, 27 January 2007, 21:42 GMT
Last edited by Tobias Powalowski (tpowa) - Sunday, 28 January 2007, 16:49 GMT
Opened by Maik Opitz (Schrauber) - Saturday, 27 January 2007, 21:42 GMT
Last edited by Tobias Powalowski (tpowa) - Sunday, 28 January 2007, 16:49 GMT
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On my laptop the 0.8 ISOs wont boot. I tried diffent mothods
to burn the images (TAO,DAO,DAO96). Also I tried the base
and the full image. Same problems.
If I boot from 0.8 disk, I get only a grub shell (grub>). The workaround was, to install the kernel from the install disk to a harddrive partition an boot from there in the installation system. I tried on other computers. There the disk works fine. Its not a hardware fault, because my laptop boots normally fine from CD. Even from linux install disks (Ubuntu and such). I attached the output of lspci. My hardware is a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo K7600 notebook. The CD-ROM is an QSI CDRW/DVD SBW242B. 
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Closed by Tobias Powalowski (tpowa)
Tuesday, 27 February 2007, 06:38 GMT
Reason for closing: Fixed
Additional comments about closing: fixed by isolinux usage
Tuesday, 27 February 2007, 06:38 GMT
Reason for closing: Fixed
Additional comments about closing: fixed by isolinux usage
perhaps the cdrom is just on an other port for grub, try to change the grub entries by hittin 'e' on menu and change it to your setup.
I think you did not get me right.
There are no entrys to edit. I do not geht the normal boot selection screen.
I directly get a simple grub shell.
The only line on screen:
grub> _
thats all.
Can you enter 'configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst' on the grub shell? If that doesn't work, please enter 'root (<tab><tab>' and tell us which devices are listed. If there is no (cd) device among them, we may be in trouble.
configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst gives
Error 23: Error while parsing number
root (<tab> gives
Possible disks are: fd0 fd1 fd2 fd3 fd4 fd5 fd6 fd7 hd0
So no cd there. And the thing is, there are 7 fd entrys. But I have not one floppy in this computer.
BTW, weird thing about this is that you can boot isolinux-based CDs (I assume Ubuntu uses isolinux), which use the same boot mechanism as grub's stage2_eltorito (called "no emulation" mode).
Error 25: Disk read error
On hd0 gives a mount filesystem error. But thats clean, because the first partition ist ntfs.
I never had such problems with bootable disks before. I tried some. All the Ubuntus are no problem. Also Suse is no problem. Makedrake. And of course Windows *lol*
Chipset is a VIA KM266.
I just testet, what devices the installed grub on harddisk can see. These are the same. No cd. So I think, its a fault of grub.
Same problem encountered with virtually all distributions that use grub instead of isolinux (isolinux based CD's boot properly). So far, I do not know a cure for that issue. Actually Ubuntu Feisty has switched from Grub back to Isolinux because of this particular issue...
When I type: root ( <TAB> , there is only my harddisk.
The 0.7.2 CD worked.
Same applies with all 0.8 alphas up to the 17-12-06 one which was tha last one using isolinux. All of them boot my system with no issues at all.
Then came grub as loader, and the CD failed to boot the system anymore...
OK, I know things evolve all the time, but since grub does have issues with quite a few hardware configurations, and since it's not THAT a great deal switching back to (working/tested) isolinux, why not giving grub a miss ATM, and opt for maximum hardware compatibility?