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FS#41421 - [xbmc] Crashing a lot, upstream says build not supported

Attached to Project: Community Packages
Opened by Michael Franze (franzem) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 08:15 GMT
Last edited by Ike Devolder (BlackEagle) - Friday, 08 August 2014, 15:43 GMT
Task Type Bug Report
Category Packages
Status Closed
Assigned To Sergej Pupykin (sergej)
Ike Devolder (BlackEagle)
Architecture x86_64
Severity High
Priority Normal
Reported Version
Due in Version Undecided
Due Date Undecided
Percent Complete 100%
Votes 1
Private No

Details

Description:

I've been experiencing a lot of crashes with XBMC 13.1 (Gotham), compared to a stable experience in Eden, Frodo.

I logged a bug with xbmc who said the current build is unsupported

Additional info:
package version: xbmc 13.1.4
Your debug xbmc.log: http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=258144
Your XBMC crashlog: http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=258145
XBMC TRAC: http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/15367

Would it be possible to rebuild xbmc so that it is supported? Ie without external ffmpeg/libav?
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Closed by  Ike Devolder (BlackEagle)
Friday, 08 August 2014, 15:43 GMT
Reason for closing:  Fixed
Additional comments about closing:  13.1-5
Comment by Gereon Schomber (IncredibleLaser) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 11:15 GMT
I can confirm crashes with XBMC. Didn't think it might be related to external ffmpeg, but it's definitely a thing since a week or two.
Comment by Ike Devolder (BlackEagle) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 13:46 GMT
please explain, case by case when xbmc is crashing, just throwing in logs might not cut it

at xbmc they are very fast saying the build is not supported because of our external ffmpeg even if the crashes are unrelated to playback
Comment by Michael Franze (franzem) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 14:13 GMT
Hi Ike,

I am sorry to be so vague; it really is as simple as a fairly random xbmc crash, usually during playback (in my case music playback because that it what I mostly use my xbmc for). It sometimes happens, sometimes doesn't. But I have been getting up to 15 crashes a day. OS is fine, xbmc crashes and then on my system reboots back to happy state, all I have to show for it is a whole lot of crashlogs (and my interrupted music).

It doesn't help that when I use the "standard" xbmc package in Arch it has the external ffmpeg, so not supported. I agree that it may very well be something else. And I *really* don't expect the you guys to debug xbmc, lol.

Maybe I'll just run xbmc-git, ... I just thought running with the internal ffmpeg (as per xbmc request) might make sense for the official Arch package, if that's what it takes to get Team XBMC support; although I have no doubt you have a good reason for running with external ffmpeg.


Comment by Doug Newgard (Scimmia) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 14:30 GMT
Running with internal ffmpeg...
Why just just have every program ship their own libs? We might as well just run Windows at that point.
Comment by Michael Franze (franzem) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 14:39 GMT
You make a very valid point Doug; but part of me says that XBMC is a little different. It's a big program for a start.

And it generally runs stand-alone (I have it on a separate HTPC), and arch is the perfect OS for XBMC, it's light/compact/up-to-date.

I don't now, giving up on all support for a decision to go with an external library seems like a big price to pay for minimal pain. I haven't done the research but there must be a good reason for it.

Anyway, I respect the build team's decision. It seems to have been a conscious choice, as and that's fine by me. And it's great that we have so much choice (unlike the sad Windows world).
Comment by Ike Devolder (BlackEagle) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 14:48 GMT
what format is your music ? is it always mp3 ? i see in the logs usually the last song mentioned is mp3
Comment by Ike Devolder (BlackEagle) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 14:50 GMT
another sidenote, xbmc-git might give you completely different results, because many things are different there vs the 13.1 .
Comment by Michael Franze (franzem) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 14:54 GMT
I have experience with xbmc-git (which is why I knew xbmc 13.x could be stable), but decided I didn't need to be on the cutting edge anymore so been running the official build for a while.

Have all kinds of file formats, especially flac, even some wavpack and ape (but mostly mp3 and flac).





Comment by Ike Devolder (BlackEagle) - Friday, 01 August 2014, 17:27 GMT
Michael, I have built an xbmc without external ffmpeg, feel free to test if your problem is gone with thatone.

My first guess would be: The problem should be still there since I'm listening to music all afternoon now via xbmc, no issues :)

you can find 'xbmc-official' in my personal repo [herecura-stable] (http://repo.herecura.eu/)
Comment by Michael Franze (franzem) - Sunday, 03 August 2014, 09:58 GMT
Hi Ike, I installed xbmc-official from your repo and it's working super well, not a single crash in 48 hours.

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