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FS#14840 - Remove ability to delete comments

Attached to Project: AUR web interface
Opened by Ralf Barth (Haggy) - Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 15:34 GMT
Last edited by Lukas Fleischer (lfleischer) - Saturday, 27 June 2015, 18:22 GMT
Task Type Feature Request
Category Backend
Status Closed
Assigned To Lukas Fleischer (lfleischer)
Architecture All
Severity Medium
Priority Normal
Reported Version 1.5.6.2
Due in Version Undecided
Due Date Undecided
Percent Complete 100%
Votes 3
Private No

Details

I'd like to make a suggestion for removing that delete button from the AUR comments.

I understand that deleting its own comments maybe helpful sometimes, but most of the
time a deleted comment messes up the whole discussion going on. I have experienced this
several times with xbmc-svn. Suddenly comments someone has answered to disappear and anyone
who comes after can hardly follow the thread.

Maybe there's a better way of removing comments or mark them as 'invalid', but i seriously
doubt there's any point in just deleting them.

Thank you for your ears,
Haggy
This task depends upon

Closed by  Lukas Fleischer (lfleischer)
Saturday, 27 June 2015, 18:22 GMT
Reason for closing:  Won't implement
Additional comments about closing:  See  FS#34690 .
Comment by Loui Chang (louipc) - Friday, 05 June 2009, 20:33 GMT
I'm neutral about this as long as I can still remove comments. :D
I'm a TU so we could allow only TUs to remove them, but I may not always be a TU.

Thoughts anyone?
Comment by Tomas Mudrunka (harvie) - Tuesday, 09 June 2009, 20:44 GMT
-1
i don't like this idea. i am deleting comments very often (i need to correct some typos or add something important). if someone is deleting comments in way that breaks continuality of discussion there is problem between his chair and keyboard.
Comment by Ralf Barth (Haggy) - Tuesday, 09 June 2009, 20:50 GMT
Well, why don't we add an edit function to the comments then? This would allow removing typos or adding/changing something. We could do this like it is in the arch forums. Perhaps with an "edit by ... on ..." mark at the end. Another option would be some noticeable "ARE YOU REALLY SURE... DELETING COMMENTS BREAKS THE THREAD..." confirmation dialogue.

Thanks for your ears.
Comment by Tomas Mudrunka (harvie) - Tuesday, 09 June 2009, 21:08 GMT
1.) confirmation dialog is good solution (maybe someone can delete comment accidentally)
good way for comfirmation should be also checkbox deleting: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/3541
2.) editing is much difficult to implement (when compared to its efficiency). when you meet some id*ot he can break the thread by editing comment.
Comment by Francisco Pina (Stunts) - Tuesday, 28 July 2009, 14:00 GMT
Just to add my 0,05€...
I believe that editing or a confirmation dialogue will not address the issue at hand.
The solution I would propose would be to all comment removal for a few hours only. After that they'd become permanent.

Thoughts?
Comment by eliott (cactus) - Tuesday, 27 October 2009, 08:02 GMT
I actually don't think comments should be removed at all.
:P
Comment by Francisco Pina (Stunts) - Tuesday, 27 October 2009, 11:37 GMT
Humm, I just noticed a typo in my previous comment that kind of makes it loose it's interest... Let me retype it:
"The solution I would propose would be to allow comment removal for a few hours only. After that they'd become permanent."

This would allow users to edit anything they felt was relevant right after reading what they wrote, but stop the "broken debates" phenomena from happening.

Sorry about my typo.
Comment by Ralf Barth (Haggy) - Thursday, 05 November 2009, 15:11 GMT
...and another destroyed discussion due to deleted comments. Guys, this REALLY sucks.
Comment by Laszlo Papp (djszapi) - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 05:23 GMT
The comment deletion isn't allowed for normal users on the most sites, forums, so -1 here. I met with such a situation too, and I couldn't follow the thread well.
Comment by Tomas Mudrunka (harvie) - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 10:22 GMT
Haggy: And why people are deleting their own comments? they probably have some reason... they don't want to act in flamewars or they think that comment is not needed anymore, when PKGBUILD is fixed... or maybe they are clicking on red cross accidentally.
Comment by Tomas Mudrunka (harvie) - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 10:25 GMT
BTW I think, that we should be able to delete each comment during 24hours after posting (typos,...), then it can be freezed.
Comment by Francisco Pina (Stunts) - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 10:35 GMT
24 hours seems quite reasonable to me too.
Comment by Tomas Mudrunka (harvie) - Monday, 05 April 2010, 21:12 GMT
oh. have anyone noticed that all comments from aur were deleted ~week ago?
do i really need to fill new bug to get them restored from backup?

i had got lots of frequently asked questions under my packages and now i am again geting emails asking those, because every single comment in aur was deleted.
please put the comments back somehow. thx
Comment by Tomas Mudrunka (harvie) - Saturday, 01 May 2010, 18:40 GMT
we can also disable deleting of all comments except the last one (or all multiple comments at the top from the same commenter) which wasn't responded yet.
Comment by Ray Rashif (schivmeister) - Monday, 07 June 2010, 18:48 GMT
For the record, if you are in the notification list of a particular package, then you get all comments mailed to you - including the (to-be-)deleted ones.
Comment by Lukas Fleischer (lfleischer) - Thursday, 27 January 2011, 07:35 GMT
How about having a time limit? Like allowing removal of comments until 5 minutes after submission?
Comment by Ray Rashif (schivmeister) - Thursday, 27 January 2011, 12:41 GMT
I say either don't allow deletion or allow deletion, simple. The current way is pretty good because it allows deletion, yet people who are in the notification list at least have a record of the comments. It keeps the AUR page itself clean but allows people to have evidence to sue someone, so that's what counts.
Comment by Loui Chang (louipc) - Thursday, 27 January 2011, 13:00 GMT
Last time I checked comments aren't actually deleted, they're just hidden, so we could put a [This comment has been deleted] placeholder so people get a hint about the flow of the conversation.
Comment by x33a (x33a) - Monday, 15 April 2013, 04:37 GMT
So, any decision about this? I too would like the comment deletion feature to be removed.
Comment by (Det) - Monday, 15 April 2013, 22:50 GMT
That's stupid. As long as we don't have  FS#34690  the only option to "edit" your comments is to remove the previous one.

The "[This comment has been deleted]" idea is fine, but if it's added to the "10 posts by default" counter we gonna end up having a single comment followed by 9 "deleted" ones at some point.

How about something like [X comments deleted (by Y different users)]?

Also I'd feel kinda sorry for the people I start arguing with who, if they can't delete their posts after 5 minutes, are probably just gonna end up removing their accounts.
Comment by Andrejs Mivreņiks (gim) - Monday, 08 June 2015, 15:33 GMT
I completely disagree. Everyone should have the ability to edit and/or delete anything you post in the comments so they can correct or add something. I believe restricting users like this is wrong and it does not worth it just to keep conversation not messed up in some cases.
Comment by (Det) - Sunday, 14 June 2015, 12:59 GMT
Maybe it's time to close this? The "[X comments deleted (by Y different users)]" message would be much more helpful when combined with  FS#34690 .

I would think that, if a user has the right to say something in the comment sections, he also has the right to unsay it.

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