FS#18445 - [kernel26] lots of unknown symbols without acpi=off

Attached to Project: Arch Linux
Opened by Ludovic Gasc (GMLudo) - Tuesday, 23 February 2010, 22:37 GMT
Last edited by Andrea Scarpino (BaSh) - Friday, 08 October 2010, 10:55 GMT
Task Type Bug Report
Category Upstream Bugs
Status Closed
Assigned To Tobias Powalowski (tpowa)
Thomas Bächler (brain0)
Architecture x86_64
Severity High
Priority Normal
Reported Version
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Due Date Undecided
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Details

On my Dell Latitude D630, I've several problems with acpi=on
# HAL crashes at boot, see the logs: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=713412#p713412
# Xorg crashes randomly without logs.

With acpi=off, it works correctly, but without the power management :-/

I can produce some logs or tests. I don't find some pieces of information to resolve my problem.

BIOS version: A17
Linux kernel: 2.6.32-ARCH
HAL: 0.5.14

Could it be a wrong DSDT ?

Thanks for your answer.
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Closed by  Andrea Scarpino (BaSh)
Friday, 08 October 2010, 10:55 GMT
Reason for closing:  No response
Additional comments about closing:  see last comment
Comment by Jan de Groot (JGC) - Wednesday, 24 February 2010, 07:41 GMT
Please provide information:
- xorg logs
- dmesg output
- relevant hal logs

A forum topic is not a replacement for this.
Comment by Ludovic Gasc (GMLudo) - Thursday, 25 February 2010, 22:34 GMT
For Xorg, I've found the solution: I must have HAL daemon started to use Xorg correctly.

This is the logs (dmesg + hal + everything).

Do you need more information ?
Comment by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (djgera) - Sunday, 28 February 2010, 19:54 GMT
I can see lots of "Unknown symbols" in dmesg. Something is broken in your system (modules dependencies) What is the status with latest kernel?
Comment by Ludovic Gasc (GMLudo) - Monday, 01 March 2010, 21:41 GMT
With the latest kernel, the situation is worse when I enable ACPI.

I've a lot of "Unknown symbols" randomly on each boot (sometimes for ext3).
Arch Linux can't mount the root filesystem, it gives a rescue shell.
When I leave the rescue shell, I've a kernel panic, it shows a "not sync" error.

When I disable ACPI, I've nothing in the logs.

Do you think I've a hardware problem ?

I'm installing testing and lts kernel to test other kernels. If you have another idea, I'm interested.
Comment by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (djgera) - Monday, 01 March 2010, 23:24 GMT
weird!, can you pass a memtest86+, just to ensure that at least memory is OK. Is the first time that you experiment this? Or with some recent update?
Comment by Ludovic Gasc (GMLudo) - Monday, 01 March 2010, 23:50 GMT
Ok for the memtest, I'll launch the test.

With 2.6.33, I've the same problem as the beginning, but the dmesg is more explict about ACPI issues (see attachment). An idea ?
It's the first time I've the problem, but before I used Gentoo Linux distribution.
I've updated the bios some days ago, could it be the fault of the computer's DSDT ?

Yours.
Comment by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (djgera) - Tuesday, 02 March 2010, 00:24 GMT
Maybe, or not.

There are some error/warning messages in your dmesg, and maybe can be safely ignored:
- ACPI Warning: Incorrect checksum in table [TCPA] - B3, should be 57 (20091214/tbutils-314)
- pci_root PNP0A03:00: ignoring host bridge windows from ACPI; boot with "pci=use_crs" to use them
- [Firmware Bug]: Duplicate ACPI video bus devices for the same VGA controller, please try module parameter "video.allow_duplicates=1"if the current driver doesn't work.

Anyway attach the output of bsdtar -t -f /boot/kernel26.img.

Can you see symbols errors if you boot in fallback mode?
Comment by Ludovic Gasc (GMLudo) - Wednesday, 03 March 2010, 00:06 GMT
I'm launching a memory test.

This is the output of bsdtar.

I see also symbols errors with fallback mode, see the other attached file.
Comment by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (djgera) - Wednesday, 03 March 2010, 00:27 GMT
is a bit weird, apparently all modules are present, for example, errors about _ata* and sata_ these modules are defined at libata.ko (that is present) same for cdrom_ (defined at cdrom.ko).

> I've a lot of "Unknown symbols" randomly on each boot (sometimes for ext3).
*randomly*, I didn't read this before.

These issues started just when upgrade your BIOS? Is possible to downgrade or fixes an important issue?

Can you reproduce the errors with Arch Linux live CDs or other distro (just to try a different kernel version/configuration)?

PS: I suggest to request close this task and continue the discussion on forum, since this is not a packaging issue. Thanks.
Comment by Ludovic Gasc (GMLudo) - Wednesday, 03 March 2010, 23:03 GMT
I've launched the memtest86+ test, no errors after 2 passes.

> *randomly*, I didn't read this before.

Now, it's always the same errors.

I've downgraded my BIOS to A15 (like as before my installation of Arch Linux), I've the same problems.

No problems with some other distro, but with Chakra Linux, I've the same problem, with the same errors.

> PS: I suggest to request close this task and continue the discussion on forum, since this is not a packaging issue. Thanks.

I'm not sure that somebody on the forum can help me like you.
Comment by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (djgera) - Tuesday, 09 March 2010, 02:42 GMT
weird, to discard some issues (if something is wrong in your installation). You can download archlinux-2010.03.04-netinstall-x86_64.iso, or more recent image if available from http://build.archlinux.org/isos/ (you can record this on cd, and also to usb flash drive)

Please boot with it, and see at dmesg if something is wrong (unknown symbols) or any other msg (attach here).
Comment by Ludovic Gasc (GMLudo) - Sunday, 14 March 2010, 00:23 GMT
I've booted with archlinux-2010.03.04-netinstall-x86_64.iso
It doesn't work, with several unknown symbol and the same crash like my installation.

If I add acpi=off on the CD boot, it works, like my installation.

I've retested the boot with the archlinux-2009.08-netinstall-x86_64.img, I have no problems to boot.

I'm thinking to compile myself a kernel to looking for a solution.
Do you think I could resolve my problem with a custom kernel ?
Comment by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (djgera) - Sunday, 14 March 2010, 05:01 GMT
oops, too bad. Something is incompatible with recent kernel acpi subsystem and your hardware. I suggest to contact ACPI kernel developers, via bugtracker or mailing list. So with interaction can resolve the issue (I think). Please attach the link here. ;)

I can't help more that this. sorry.
Comment by Ludovic Gasc (GMLudo) - Saturday, 03 July 2010, 17:52 GMT
No problems, thank you for your help.

I've found a better workaround with the nolapic option.

I've posted a bug report on the bugzilla of Linux: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16331

If they find a solution, I'll post on this issue.
Comment by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (djgera) - Friday, 24 September 2010, 01:59 GMT
Closing this ticket?

Comment #8 From Ludovic Gasc 2010-09-01 12:42:59 -------

Sorry, I haven't this computer anymore.
I'd made several tests, I'd always the same problem.

Comment by Ludovic Gasc (GMLudo) - Friday, 08 October 2010, 08:09 GMT
Yes, you can.

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