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FS#6501 - Investigate idea of a 'base' group of packages

Attached to Project: Arch Linux
Opened by Dan McGee (toofishes) - Wednesday, 28 February 2007, 05:56 GMT
Last edited by Roman Kyrylych (Romashka) - Monday, 17 September 2007, 11:01 GMT
Task Type Feature Request
Category System
Status Closed
Assigned To No-one
Architecture not specified
Severity Low
Priority Normal
Reported Version 0.7.2 Gimmick
Due in Version Undecided
Due Date Undecided
Percent Complete 100%
Votes 0
Private No

Details

See http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6465 for the original ideas that inspired this.

Typically packages assume anything listed in 'base' in our PKGBUILD tree is installed on a system, so these packages are never listed in depends or makedepends arrays in other PKGBUILDs. If they were, it could quickly get out of hand, increase the chance of circular dependencies, and other possibly unwanted things.

On another note, pacman could unwillingly remove one of these packages if only a select few packages list them. This would occur when a package is removed with an -Rcs operation, and tracing the dependency chain caused a base-level package to be removed. phrakture and I have some ideas for preventing this- add a third option under install reason labeling the package as essential.

In the other bug mentioned above, the idea of a 'base' metapackage was mentioned. A 'base' group may be a better idea, containing only the bare essentials, and perhaps leaving out some of the other things currently in the base/ directory- mdadm, etc.

Basically, this bug is open for some comments and thoughts from everyone on some more logical system that guarantees certain packages on users machines so they do not need to be mentioned in PKGBUILDs.
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Closed by  Roman Kyrylych (Romashka)
Monday, 17 September 2007, 11:01 GMT
Reason for closing:  Implemented
Comment by Paul Seropian (paranoos) - Thursday, 08 March 2007, 10:08 GMT
I support the addition of a base group. I've had that idea in mind for some time now, and was about to come file a feature request. I like the idea because it allows experienced users to install an Arch system very easily by doing "pacman -Sg base" to see what the base packages are, and you can simply "pacman -S base" to install them all. This is much simpler than checking ftp.archlinux.org/current/os/i686/setup/packages.txt

As mentioned, the group should only include essential packages that should be on every machine, not only what should be on the base install CD.

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