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<tomty89> chrisl: hello
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<chrisl> tomty89: hi
<tomty89> chrisl: i have some questions about the urw fonts  [15:02]
<chrisl> I'll answer if I can....
<tomty89> chrisl: what are the relationship between the font files in
	  Resource/Font and the urw-core35-fonts.git  [15:03]
<tomty89> like, how are they maintained respectively
<chrisl> They are the same fonts, only the file names are different
<chrisl> Oh, actually, the font names are different, too. But the outlines are
	 the same
<tomty89> but it seems to me the file sizes are a bit different  [15:04]
<chrisl> Because the names are different
<tomty89> oh
<tomty89> so when there're updates, i suppose urw-core35-fonts.git would also
	  get updated?  [15:05]
<chrisl> Basically, the urw-core35-fonts.git is *exactly* what we get from
	 URW, whilst the Resource/Font ones have some tweaks to the names for
	 Ghostscript
<tomty89> hmm okay  [15:06]
<chrisl> Yes, every time we get an update from URW, that update will go in
	 urw-core35-fonts.git
<chrisl> Note that this will *probably* change with the next update: I *think*
	 I'll keep the font names the same (but still rename the files) and
	 modify Ghostscript to use the new URW names  [15:07]
<tomty89> do you know what are difference between them and these
	  http://svn.ghostscript.com/ghostscript/trunk/urw-fonts/
	  http://svn.ghostscript.com/ghostscript/tags/urw-fonts-1.0.7pre44/ ?
<tomty89> seems these are much larger in file sizes
<chrisl> Those have (very badly designed) Cyrillic glyphs in them
<tomty89> so i should switch to those in the git without losing any
	  "features"?  [15:08]
<chrisl> You will lose Cyrillic.... but really, you shouldn't be using them
	 for Cyrillic glyphs, given the poor quality  [15:09]
<tomty89> i see
<chrisl> And Cyrillic glyphs are not required to be present in the Postscript
	 base fonts  [15:10]
<tomty89> so one more question, any reason that only the pfb goes into
	  Resource/Font? (is that a dumb question? because ghostscript only
	  needs pfb?)  [15:11]
<chrisl> Yeh, GS only needs the font files
<chrisl> That's one of the main reasons that urw-core35-fonts.git exists
								        [15:12]
<tomty89> hmm so urw is still maintaining the fonts...i thought they just
	  donated them and let you guys maintain it
<chrisl> We occasionally *pay* URW to update the fonts  [15:13]
<kens> We aren't a font foundry, we don't have the time to maintain fonts
<tomty89> oh
<tomty89> but urw-core35-fonts.git is the most "upstream" source anyway,
	  right?
<kens> We are acting as upstream providers simply because nobody else will,
       its a conscious decision but not one we are totally happy with  [15:14]
<chrisl> tomty89: yes, urw-core35-fonts.git is the upstream source
<tomty89> i see
<chrisl> As I said, the relationship between the Resource/Font files and the
	 contents of urw-core35-fonts.git will closer in the future
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