Are you using an eclipse binary that is not ours?

I have used Eclipse from original Arch Linux repository (0.7 code name: Wombat) - I have used pacman manager. I have not downloaded Eclipse from external website (eclipse.org etc.). Please ask if more details is needed.

sorry JGC, mis clicked on assignment.

This is one we've been over a million times.

Eclipse requires libgnomeui which requires gnome-keyring which requires gtk2. So the explicit dependency is not needed; gtk2 is a prerequisite of install.

If your system didn't make you install gtk2 first, I *think* that is a bug in pacman, but that would require more research.

Please indicate versions of the eclipse package and the pacman package you're using.

I'm not sure pacman follows the dependancy chain that far when it checks for prereqs. If libgnomeui is installed, that's all pacman cares about when eclipse is installed, AFAIK.

It shouldn't have to check for gtk2 when it installs eclipse, right? When libgnomeui was installed, it should have checked to make sure gtk2 was installed, and it should not have let gtk2 be uninstalled without first or concurrently uninstalling libgnomeui.

It seems like the only way one can get into a bad situation here is if one overrides dependencies in some pacman operation, either in the past or at install time for eclipse.

Correct me if I'm wrong!

No, that's my guess too. I'm guessing libgnomeui or gnome-keyring were either installed using --nodeps OR one of those packages had a bug when it was originally installed. No clue if pacman checks packages for new dependancies on upgrade.

Folks! There is one more aspect! :-(

I was playing on two consols (ctrl+alt+f1 as root and ctrl+alt+f2 as ordinary user). After installing Eclipse on first console as root, I get error on second console "...something cannot be locked... eclipse...". The bad thing - I do not remember correctly. I have included this information in forum thread.

Other question: please provide information how to check pacman and Eclipse versions. I have Arch Linux for 2 days and I am not fluent with it. Thank You for Your consideration!

Sorry, "pacman -Q eclipse pacman".

Wow, I'm really not getting things right the first time today.

you mean:

pacman -Q eclipse pacman libgnomeui gnome-keyring

Wow, and Dale really is the fastest poster I know. ;)

Correct. Pacman only checks the first level of dependencies when installing a package. It trusts that the dependency tree is intact, so it doesn't verify the entire tree.

So this gets us back to the matter immediately at hand: if t_ziel installed without ever using --nodeps, how did (s)he end up without gtk2?

I'll try to test this on a clean test machine (installing base packages and then eclipse directly) in our lab if I get a few seconds today. If that works fine, I'm going to close this bug. Otherwise, I will figure out what makes it work correctly and do that.

- P

Nope, that doesn't work.

http://cvs.archlinux.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/devel/eclipse/PKGBUILD?rev=1.13&cvsroot=Extra&only_with_tag=CURRENT

the current PKGBUILD mentions 'j2sdk' as the only dep.

Ah, of course. I'm mixing up makedepends and depends. Yes, this must need a RUNTIME dependency on gtk2 which isn't going to be caught by the makedepends on libgnomeui.

I will add this in the next version of the package. It might take a day or two to roll out -- this is a huge sucker of a package.

Sorry for the confusion; trying to do too many things here today. Thanks to all for helping to work through it.

- P