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FS#2885 - koffice 1.4 documentation is missing

Attached to Project: Arch Linux
Opened by Dmitry Kagan (mitya) - Monday, 27 June 2005, 09:41 GMT
Last edited by Damir Perisa (damir.perisa) - Friday, 13 January 2006, 16:02 GMT
Task Type Bug Report
Category Packages: Extra
Status Closed
Assigned To Alexander Baldeck (kth5)
Architecture not specified
Severity Medium
Priority Normal
Reported Version 0.7 Wombat
Due in Version Undecided
Due Date Undecided
Percent Complete 100%
Votes 0
Private No

Details

In koffice 1.4 PKGBULD:

rm -rf ....../kde/share/doc

1. KOffice documentation shouldn't be removed. Unlike the info/man situation, there is no alternative documentation source for KOffice apps.

2. KOffice documentation is meant to be integrated into KDE documentation and there is documentation for all other KDE apps.

Thanks!
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Closed by  Alexander Baldeck (kth5)
Tuesday, 24 January 2006, 19:23 GMT
Reason for closing:  Won't fix
Comment by Damir Perisa (damir.perisa) - Monday, 27 June 2005, 15:44 GMT
hmm ... funny but you are the first since koffice is in the repos who is asking that. i removed them because of the size of the pkg but if there is a need for it, we can include it... maybe a poll in the forums would help to find out what the people think
Comment by Damir Perisa (damir.perisa) - Monday, 27 June 2005, 15:47 GMT
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/koffice/
Comment by Jan de Groot (JGC) - Monday, 27 June 2005, 17:54 GMT
Hmm, would it be possible to hack the kde help system together to list online help instead of documentation on the filesystem?
Comment by Damir Perisa (damir.perisa) - Monday, 27 June 2005, 18:38 GMT
that's a very interesting point! i searched bugs.kde.org but didn't find anything ... are we really the first ones who came to this idea? wow! anyone wants to start a whish at kde-bugzilla?
Comment by Dmitry Kagan (mitya) - Tuesday, 28 June 2005, 06:00 GMT
Hmm...

Perhaps it is just me, but it seems a little disturbing going online for docs on an obviously offline app like kword, for example.

Like I said earlier, in other cases we have man pages. KDE apps are not the case.

How about a separate package for koffice documentation? This will solve the dilema.

Thanks!
Comment by Dmitry Kagan (mitya) - Tuesday, 28 June 2005, 06:12 GMT
BTW,

The KOffice documentation at http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/koffice/
dates back to 2001. Sad...
Comment by Damir Perisa (damir.perisa) - Tuesday, 28 June 2005, 21:05 GMT
it depends on what you look at:

http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/koffice/koffice/index.html --- 2001
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/koffice/kword/index.html --- 2005
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/koffice/kpresenter/index.html --- 2002
Comment by Damir Perisa (damir.perisa) - Tuesday, 28 June 2005, 21:11 GMT
a docs pkg would be possible, but who is going to maintain it? maybe someone wants to provide it in AUR? ... i don't know...
about man pages and info pages: man pages are needed so that you know what argument means what in a commandline app. in a gui-app, at least i'm in most cases just learning by doing. of course i understand that there are people who like to have it more rational and structured. if there is a need for them (that's why i think a poll in the forums would be usefull) then i'm ready to enlarge the pkg of koffice to include all the docs ... but i don't want 2 days later to read a bug-report to remove the docs again. nor want i to maintain a koffice-docs pkg myself. hope you see my point of view. what do you suggest?
Comment by Damir Perisa (damir.perisa) - Friday, 13 January 2006, 16:03 GMT
reassigned to new maintainer of this pkg
Comment by Alexander Baldeck (kth5) - Friday, 13 January 2006, 16:49 GMT
oops, this has been here for such a long time. please bear with me while i will work on it somewhen this weekend.
as koffice is scheduled to be split at least into kexi and koffice i suggest to add yet another package for just the docs: koffice-docs.
Comment by Damir Perisa (damir.perisa) - Friday, 13 January 2006, 16:58 GMT
your pkg, you decide. no need to hurry... this is an old open bug that nobody cared to reply my questions (maybe they are a little bit too retorical sometimes, i admit ;-)

when you splitt out kexi, i will rebuild labplot to include kexi support. the koffice-docs are very low priority ;-)
Comment by Alexander Baldeck (kth5) - Saturday, 14 January 2006, 00:06 GMT
heh, sure. i just took my time with other things lately. anyway, expect the change to happen pretty soon.
Comment by Alexander Baldeck (kth5) - Tuesday, 24 January 2006, 19:22 GMT
ok, i tried to find some recent docs but it's just as Damir said already, they're outdated or incomplete. so it probably does not make much sense to integrate them or to even create a seperate package right now.
rumor has it that a beta of the upcoming koffice is around already so i will wait and see if things haved changed.

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