FS#22185 - [gimp-plugin-gmic4gimp] the name of the package is obscure

Attached to Project: Community Packages
Opened by Greg (dolby) - Wednesday, 22 December 2010, 11:49 GMT
Last edited by Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) - Thursday, 13 January 2011, 22:48 GMT
Task Type General Gripe
Category Packages
Status Closed
Assigned To Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig)
Architecture All
Severity Very Low
Priority Normal
Reported Version
Due in Version Undecided
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Details

The name of the application is merely gmic.
I can understand applying the gimp-plugin part to let people know it is a plugin for gimp.
Is there a need having the 4gimp attached to it?
Not even Debian, the master of made up package renaming has that obscure package names! ( http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gmic ) :)

Also this package is a duplicate of the greycstoration ones.
See  FS#22142 
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Closed by  Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig)
Thursday, 13 January 2011, 22:48 GMT
Reason for closing:  Fixed
Comment by Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) - Wednesday, 22 December 2010, 14:53 GMT
I suppose this is sensible.

I'll look into building the stand-alone gmic, as well.
I will rename the package to gimp-plugin-gmic then.
Comment by Greg (dolby) - Monday, 27 December 2010, 18:52 GMT
I noticed that Sergej solved  FS#22142  by uploading a gmic package to replace the greycstoration one, which's script is very similar to yours: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/gmic/
and removed gimp-plugin-greycstoration cause its the same as this one.
It seems that these two could become one script, using the split package feature.
Comment by Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) - Monday, 27 December 2010, 19:21 GMT
I already wrote a new PKGBUILD and contacted Sergej a few days ago, but he hasn't answered yet. Maybe after New Year's.
Comment by Skottish (skottish) - Friday, 31 December 2010, 21:22 GMT
The greycstoration plugin and the one in g'mic are not exactly the same. The greycstoration plugin exposed it's functions to GIMP's PDB so that it could be used for scripting with GIMP's command line tool; g'mic does no such thing. This is a major loss of functionality.
Comment by Greg (dolby) - Friday, 31 December 2010, 22:28 GMT
Upstream says: "Note : This plug-in is the logical sequel of our previous GREYCstoration software, dedicated to image denoising and regularization. Actually, G'MIC provides all the GREYCstoration features (through the filter entries Enhancement/Anisotropic smoothing and Patch-based smoothing), but also much more. As the development of the GREYCstoration software has been discontinued, we highly encourage former users to switch to G'MIC."

Maybe they just changed the way of doing things? You might want to ask in their flickr forum, which FTR has at least one discussion thread about not being able to compile gmic on Arch ( http://www.flickr.com/groups/gmic/discuss/72157625467571559/ ).
If what you're saying is true and there is indeed a loss of functionality, its an upstream issue.
All of the above are irrelevent to *this* report anyway.
Comment by David Tschumperlé (dtschump) - Saturday, 01 January 2011, 11:50 GMT
Hi.
I'm the main developer of G'MIC (including the code for the command line tool and the plug-in for GIMP).
I would like to point out that the plug-in is indeed scriptable and registers itself to the GIMP PDB.
It is even more flexible than the old GREYCstoration plug-in.

You may look at the example .scm file here, to see how it can be done :

http://gmic.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gmic/gmic/src/gmic_in_script.scm?view=markup

Really, GREYCstoration is outdated, my personal opinion is that it has become useless now.
All GREYCstoration features are now in G'MIC, in a more clean way (there were bugs remaining in the GREYCstoration smoothing algorithm).

Of course, thanks a lot for having considered G'MIC as a useful packages for Arch users, I'm very honored.
(Note also that the latest 1.4.7.1 version has been released yesterday :) ).

If you need more informations, do not hesitate to ask.

Happy new year 2011.
Comment by Skottish (skottish) - Saturday, 01 January 2011, 18:49 GMT
I'm wrong. Disregard. David, I'll be joining your forums here soon.

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