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FS#18303 - provide a general notification service

Attached to Project: Arch Linux
Opened by Matthias Dienstbier (fs4000) - Friday, 12 February 2010, 09:34 GMT
Last edited by Andreas Radke (AndyRTR) - Saturday, 14 August 2010, 21:09 GMT
Task Type Bug Report
Category Packages: Extra
Status Closed
Assigned To Pierre Schmitz (Pierre)
Andreas Radke (AndyRTR)
Andrea Scarpino (BaSh)
Ionut Biru (wonder)
Architecture All
Severity Low
Priority Normal
Reported Version
Due in Version Undecided
Due Date Undecided
Percent Complete 100%
Votes 1
Private No

Details

Description:
Since version 4.4.0 KDE seems to be able to display libnotify events. At the moment notification-daemon is installed because pacman doesn't know knotify4 will display the messages instead of notification-daemon and libnotify depends on it.
It's likely the same as with xfce4-notifyd.

Additional info:
* package version(s)
extra/kdebase-runtime 4.4.0-3
This task depends upon

Closed by  Andreas Radke (AndyRTR)
Saturday, 14 August 2010, 21:09 GMT
Reason for closing:  Won't implement
Additional comments about closing:  No progress has happened on the kde side. Things are compatible upstream right now, so the packagers can't solve this.
Comment by Pierre Schmitz (Pierre) - Friday, 12 February 2010, 09:39 GMT
I think we'll need a more general approach instead of the different packages providing each other. E.g. all those packages could provide something like notification service on which other packages could depend.
Comment by Jan de Groot (JGC) - Friday, 12 February 2010, 12:10 GMT
xfce4-notifyd already provides and conflicts notification-daemon. It should be easy for KDE to follow that.
One sidenote though: KDE provides org.kde.knotify, while the others provide org.freedesktop.Notifications. I don't know how much these services are compatible with eachother, but technically kdebase-runtime doesn't provide the freedesktop notifications service.
Comment by Matthias Dienstbier (fs4000) - Friday, 12 February 2010, 15:00 GMT
Yes, that's a problem. Notification-daemon and xfce4-notifyd have this D-BUS service making it start automatically if needed (if I understood that right). KDE always starts knotify and it catches all libnotify messages making notfication-daemon unneded.
So someone (like me) who only has KDE won't need nofication-daemon, but as soon as another desktop evironment is installed it must install/depend on the real notification-daemon.
Comment by xduugu (xduugu) - Saturday, 13 February 2010, 11:41 GMT
There is/was a similar discussion in  FS#16496 . awesome also provides a notification daemon, but since it'll break dependency handling for user who have installed awesome but don't use it, the provides line was removed again.

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