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FS#16927 - Adding Fonts to Extra

Attached to Project: Arch Linux
Opened by Joseph Kern (timetrap) - Friday, 30 October 2009, 18:29 GMT
Last edited by Francois Charette (Firmicus) - Monday, 02 November 2009, 08:52 GMT
Task Type Feature Request
Category Packages: Extra
Status Closed
Assigned To Ronald van Haren (pressh)
Francois Charette (Firmicus)
Giovanni Scafora (giovanni)
Architecture All
Severity Low
Priority Normal
Reported Version
Due in Version Undecided
Due Date Undecided
Percent Complete 100%
Votes 0
Private No

Details

Description:

I posted an off-topic listing of funny unicode faces here: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=83588, no matter how many font packages I installed I couldn't get them to all work. BUT they do work in Ubuntu 9.10 (and Windows). Here's a list of the current fonts I have installed in Arch:

~/ pacman -Q | grep ^ttf*

ttf-arphic-ukai 0.2.20080216.1-1
ttf-arphic-uming 0.2.20080216.1-1
ttf-bitstream-vera 1.10-6
ttf-dejavu 2.30-1
ttf-freebanglafont 0.5-6
ttf-freefont 20090104-2
ttf-junicode 0.6.17-1
ttf-linux-libertine 4.4.1-2
ttf-mph-2b-damase 001.000.4.dfsg.2-1
ttf-ms-fonts 2.0-2

And here's a list of the Ubuntu (ttf)font packages:

dpkg --list | grep ttf

ttf-dejavu-core
ttf-freefont
ttf-indic-fonts-core
ttf-kacst
ttf-lao
ttf-opensymbol
ttf-thai-tlwg
ttf-unfonts-core
ttf-vlgothic
ttf-wqy-zenhei

Can we bring these into parity? I would like to be able, not only to see funny faces, but have full unicode support. ttf-freefont got me 90% of the way but I am at a loss for the other 10% (perhaps opensymbol?)
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Closed by  Francois Charette (Firmicus)
Monday, 02 November 2009, 08:52 GMT
Reason for closing:  Won't implement
Additional comments about closing:  See last comment
Comment by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (djgera) - Friday, 30 October 2009, 18:35 GMT
Use the forum to request PKGBUILD for AUR, if you don't know how to make a package, so the package will be available via AUR, if receive some votes, then the package can be moved to [community] if some TU are interested in maintain it, if this in community become very used, then the package will pass to [extra] if any dev is interested in maintain it ;)
Comment by Joseph Kern (timetrap) - Friday, 30 October 2009, 18:42 GMT
Ah. Sorry, I thought I could just request a package ... especially one for fonts. I'll look into making a package.
Comment by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (djgera) - Friday, 30 October 2009, 21:07 GMT
OK. Adding all maintainers of ttf-* packages, maybe can do the work on this.
Comment by Francois Charette (Firmicus) - Saturday, 31 October 2009, 12:45 GMT
The link to the forum does not exist. Could you please correct it? I'd like to test this, as I'm a kind of unofficial expert on fonts and unicode ;)
Even better would be to precisely indicate the Unicode glyphs you are looking for. I have a perl script here that would make easy to list the fonts that contain them, among the hundreds I have on my machine...
Comment by Joseph Kern (timetrap) - Sunday, 01 November 2009, 22:39 GMT Comment by Joseph Kern (timetrap) - Sunday, 01 November 2009, 22:41 GMT
Oh! It's in the Off-Topic board. You might need to be logged into see it.

And the title of the post is --> Unicode Faces ಠ_ಠ

Comment by Joseph Kern (timetrap) - Sunday, 01 November 2009, 22:45 GMT Comment by Francois Charette (Firmicus) - Monday, 02 November 2009, 08:27 GMT
Thanks, you're right, I needed to log in first...
First comment about the list of fonts on ubuntu vs arch. I very much doubt any of the fonts listed from Ubuntu would help much in displaying those glyphs.
What you need is one or a combination of these:
Arial Unicode MS
Bitstream Cyberbit
Code2000
Code2001
Everson Mono Unicode
TITUS Cyberbit Basic
all of which are however "unfree", so they cannot be packaged (except in AUR in some cases).
Code2000 and Arial Unicode MS have the largest coverage (at the expense of other qualities).
Still you can download most of the above fonts for free and put them in ~/.fonts/TTF/.
Don't forget though that Code2000 is shareware.
Comment by Francois Charette (Firmicus) - Monday, 02 November 2009, 08:51 GMT

Going through your list:

ttf-dejavu-core => already in extra as ttf-dejavu

ttf-freefont => already in extra

ttf-indic-fonts-core => already in extra as ttf-indic-otf

ttf-kacst => available in AUR as ttf-arabeyes-fonts (to which Debian adds another font)

ttf-lao => could be added to AUR; upstream URL is http://sourceforge.net/projects/laofoss/files/

ttf-opensymbol => provided by openoffice-base (/usr/lib/openoffice/basis-link/share/fonts/truetype/opens___.ttf)

ttf-thai-tlwg => roughly equivalent to ttf-thai in extra, but the tlwg ones could also be added to AUR/community.

ttf-unfonts-core => available in AUR as ttf-unfonts-core and ttf-unfonts-extra (Korean fonts)

ttf-vlgothic => available in AUR (this is a japanese font)

ttf-wqy-zenhei => already in community. See also wqy-zenhei-nightly_build in AUR

Conclusion: you could have checked more thoroughly before filing this feature request ;)

I don't think any font package listed above needs to be moved to extra, which already offers a very decent collection of high-quality TrueType and OpenType fonts.

If someone wants Lao fonts, he/she can add ttf-lao to AUR. Same thing with ttf-thai-tlwg.

I will thus close this.

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