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FS#15218 - ath5k and network manager stopped working after update

Attached to Project: Arch Linux
Opened by Dan Gray (deggy) - Monday, 22 June 2009, 20:11 GMT
Last edited by Tobias Powalowski (tpowa) - Wednesday, 24 June 2009, 11:05 GMT
Task Type Bug Report
Category Packages: Core
Status Closed
Assigned To Tobias Powalowski (tpowa)
Aaron Griffin (phrakture)
Thomas Bächler (brain0)
Architecture All
Severity Medium
Priority Normal
Reported Version
Due in Version Undecided
Due Date Undecided
Percent Complete 100%
Votes 0
Private No

Details

I just updated my setup and my atheros wireless card has stopped working.

I can bring wlan0 up and down with ifconfig

I can change settings with iwconfig

But NetworkManager doesn't want to know. It can see the card, but no networks (and as far as I can see, using iwconfig and ifconfig the card never associates).

I had a similar issue a while ago that was a HAL problem, but hal hasn't been updated here.

Recent package upgrades are:

[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded cryptsetup (1.0.6-2 -> 1.0.6-3)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded filesystem (2009.01-1 -> 2009.01-2)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded flex (2.5.35-1 -> 2.5.35-3)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded klibc (1.5.15-2 -> 1.5.15-3)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded klibc-extras (2.5-3 -> 2.5-4)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded klibc-kbd (1.15.20080312-9 -> 1.15.20080312-10)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded klibc-module-init-tools (3.5-2 -> 3.8-1)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded klibc-udev (141-2 -> 141-3)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded udev (141-1 -> 141-3)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded mkinitcpio (0.5.24-1 -> 0.5.25-1)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded module-init-tools (3.5-1 -> 3.8-1)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded moon-lander (1.0-3 -> 1.0-3.1)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded pacman-mirrorlist (20090509-1 -> 20090616-1)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded tdb (3.3.4-1 -> 3.3.5-1)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded smbclient (3.3.4-1 -> 3.3.5-1)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded samba (3.3.4-1 -> 3.3.5-2)
[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded speex (1.2rc1-1 -> 1.2rc1-1.1)
[2009-06-19 09:39] upgraded xz-utils (4.999.8beta-3 -> 4.999.8beta-3)
[2009-06-21 17:22] upgraded findutils (4.4.1-2 -> 4.4.2-1)
[2009-06-21 17:22] upgraded man-db (2.5.5-1 -> 2.5.5-2)
[2009-06-21 17:22] upgraded sqlite3 (3.6.14.1-1 -> 3.6.15-1)
[2009-06-21 17:22] upgraded tzdata (2009g-1 -> 2009j-1)
[2009-06-21 17:22] upgraded wine (1.1.23-1 -> 1.1.24-1)
[2009-06-22 21:02] upgraded lapack (3.2-2 -> 3.2.1-1)
[2009-06-22 21:02] upgraded libdaemon (0.13-1 -> 0.13-2)
[2009-06-22 21:02] upgraded libidn (1.14-1 -> 1.15-1)
[2009-06-22 21:02] upgraded pidgin (2.5.6-1 -> 2.5.7-1)
[2009-06-22 21:02] upgraded unrar (3.9.3-1 -> 3.9.4-1)


Any ideas what could be causing my problem?

Dan
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Closed by  Tobias Powalowski (tpowa)
Wednesday, 24 June 2009, 11:05 GMT
Reason for closing:  Fixed
Comment by Dan Gray (deggy) - Monday, 22 June 2009, 20:30 GMT
Downgraded udev from udev-141-3 to udev-141-1

Also downgraded mkinitcpio to 0.5.24-1 because of a dependecy issue.

Problem has gone away.

Believe this is a udev issue as mkinitcpio was not used between system boots.
Comment by Roman Kyrylych (Romashka) - Monday, 22 June 2009, 21:31 GMT
> Any ideas what could be causing my problem?

[2009-06-19 09:38] upgraded module-init-tools (3.5-1 -> 3.8-1)
http://www.archlinux.org/news/450/
Did you read this?
Comment by Roman Kyrylych (Romashka) - Monday, 22 June 2009, 21:40 GMT
@Tobias: FYI I've closed  FS#15219  as a duplicate. Feel free to switch opened/closed status of these bugs.
Comment by Dan Gray (deggy) - Tuesday, 23 June 2009, 12:07 GMT
Yes.

Read and actioned on upgrade of module-init-tools.

There are no lines within any of the modprobe config files refering to the atheros driver either. So I have a feeling that's not it (plus, I have not downgraded module-init-tools and with the udev downgrade my wireless card now work again).

I had a similar issue with hal a few months ago when we switched to the git tree, but that seems to have resolved itself.

For some reason hal and udev seem particularly fond of throwing up strange hardware issues like this from time to time, and I find them unpenetrable enough to make it hard to come up with an exact reason.

Dan
Comment by Roman Kyrylych (Romashka) - Tuesday, 23 June 2009, 13:42 GMT
@Tobias: there were some module loading related changes (IIRC) in the latest udev package,
could they lead to this?
Comment by Tobias Powalowski (tpowa) - Tuesday, 23 June 2009, 18:10 GMT
udev wasn't change in loading modules here, so i don't think it's udev related.
If udev is the source, you could try to load the modules by MODULES= to avoid autoloading.
Comment by Thomas Bächler (brain0) - Tuesday, 23 June 2009, 18:31 GMT
There's no way udev can cause this. All udev does is either load the module or not load it.
Comment by Aaron Griffin (phrakture) - Tuesday, 23 June 2009, 20:01 GMT
What Thomas says is true. I wonder how this could happen....

With the latest udev, is the module actually loaded? Use lsmod to check
Comment by Thomas Bächler (brain0) - Tuesday, 23 June 2009, 20:55 GMT
Also, I just used ath5k two days ago on a friend's laptop with all latest Arch repos. Can you paste the output of "iw list"?
Comment by Aaron Griffin (phrakture) - Tuesday, 23 June 2009, 21:03 GMT
For the record, my ath5k machine seems to randomly drop wifi once a day. I imagine it's due to the newest kernel.... are you sure this isn't a kernel issue? Is there anything important in dmesg?
Comment by Dan Gray (deggy) - Wednesday, 24 June 2009, 11:04 GMT
OK,

I Re-upgraded to udev 141-1 and mkinitcpio 0.5.25 yesterday and my wifi card stopped working again (iwconfig and ifconfig returned no errors, but scanning for AP and associating did not work), do I downgraded again.

I have just tried to re-upgrade to get some good debugging information for this report and this time eveything is fine.

So I am flumoxed, but this seems to have resolved itself. I really can't think where the problem in my configuration would have come from (and where it has gone to, I don't think I changed anytning else in the meantime).

What I did get when I upgraded this time was an initial failure because /etc/modprobe.d/framebuffer_blacklist.conf already existed. I manually removed the file and then the upgrade went through. I don't think that intelfb was ever loaded though, even when I was having issues.

I will monitor the system, but this seems to have resolved itself.

Thanks for all your help.

Can someone please close the bug report?

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