FS#13862 - Tuz instead of Arch logo for one kernel release?
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Opened by Cristian C. (ckristi) - Wednesday, 18 March 2009, 22:43 GMT
Last edited by Allan McRae (Allan) - Thursday, 19 March 2009, 13:16 GMT
Opened by Cristian C. (ckristi) - Wednesday, 18 March 2009, 22:43 GMT
Last edited by Allan McRae (Allan) - Thursday, 19 March 2009, 13:16 GMT
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Hi.
I just had an idea, being inspired from here http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE1MA and here http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=67844. What do you (the developers) think about removing the patch that replaces Tux with the Arch Logo in the kernel for the 2.6.29 release, so that we'll support the tasmanian devil aswell? I think it would be a nice thing to do for this kernel release. If anyone wants to support this idea, please vote. :-) |
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Closed by Allan McRae (Allan)
Thursday, 19 March 2009, 13:16 GMT
Reason for closing: Deferred
Additional comments about closing: Decision deferred until 2.6.29 released...
Thursday, 19 March 2009, 13:16 GMT
Reason for closing: Deferred
Additional comments about closing: Decision deferred until 2.6.29 released...
Don't get me wrong. Saving such animals is great, that's for sure. But I won't feel comfrtable to choose which campaign we should support "this week". But that shouldn't be our business.
I am really happy that there are people supporting such campaigns; but this is not really the right place.
I just think it would be nice and a bit of fun to mix it up :)
I see his point. We're Arch Linux, not a political movement.
That said, I should point out a couple of things:
a) Once split packages are official, Thomas does want to provide a plain old vanilla kernel in addition to ours, which would cover things like this
b) Anyone is welcome to do it. Put a PKGBUILD in the AUR, or even host the package on your own site.
This is not about time. It's not about effort. It's something that we, as Arch Linux, don't really want to do. I'm on Pierre's side. This is a slippery slope if we start supporting random causes. Let's be clear here: this isn't about us changing the framebuffer icon.
And quite frankly, I don't care about Tasmanian devils. What about the Californian Condor? There are something like 50 of them left in the world.
As I said already: do it yourself. Make a PKGBUILD without the framebuffer image, build the package for both architectures, and host it somewhere. Hell, I'll even offer to host it for you on the Arch servers for a time.
Thanks for all your answers and time and sorry for not making myself understood. All I want is respect, even if I make a stupid request. I never had a bad intention in doing it and I don't think my original post sounded as an abuse towards Arch. If that's what Pierre thinks, then yes... I'm feeling offended. I'm not that sensitive to this cause, there are animals soon to be extinct here in my country, too... But I was not mitigating for them, but for a cause adopted by someone who should count for each and everyone of us who are happy by using something he created and maintains for us. It's not a commercial thing... i didn't suggest to put soda adverts instead of the Arch logo and I don't want to be called as an abuser if I didn't act as one. That was all.
Sorry again if I upset you, Aaron... this surely was not my intention. I really appreciate your work for this distro.
I'll do the pushing of the button after sending this comment. Sorry to the supporters of this request, we've tried... It's late now here (3:30AM), but tomorrow night I'll try to patch the PKGBUILD for the purpose and if everything goes well, I'll make it public.
One thing is clear, this doesn't go against the Arch Linux policies, why? because this is an upstream change, aur policy is to keep up with upstream, so patching the logo has always been a luxury and against our philosophy all this years. I am neutral for this feature request, if it happens great, if it doens't then great as well. But just wanted to point out that this feature request is in no way against Arch policies, the contrary, this is an upstream change.
Kensai's concern was about replacing the Arch logo by the upstream one. Afaik we had a discussion about the latter some time ago. This will lead into a discussion about branding at all etc.. So I think for this a separate feauture request or discussion on our ml would be better.
Effectively what I'm saying is stop arguing about something that has no effect on how the distribution itself runs before someone says something stupid and we start to lose users over a branding issue that's only relevant for a month or so anyway.